Vyse,
Sons & Co.: History
The
Company
In 1848[1]
the partnership between Thomas Vyse, his three sons: Richard, Charles and Henry
was dissolved.
That year the company was known simply as Thomas Vyse merchants with
four businesses, two in London at 3 Cripplegate-buildings
and 76 Wood-street, one in Luton, Bedfordshire and another in New York,
USA. Thomas
Vyse established
the business as a straw hat
manufacturer at 106 Wood Street in Cheapside at least 46 years earlier because
it was first listed in London City directories in 1802[2]. According to the 1814[3]
trade card seen here, it was located at Holborn Hill
that year. In 1825[4]
the firm was listed as a straw hat manufacturer at 59
Holborn Bridge and a leghorn merchant at 104 Wood Street, Cheapside. By 1835[5]
the firm had expanded considerable with operations added in Luton,
Bedfordshire, Signa, Italy (near Florence) and New York. Several of Thomas’s sons assisted him in the
firm’s foreign operations. In fact, two
of his sons died while living and working there, Frederick Vyse in 1840 in
Florence, Italy and William Vyse in 1843 in New
York. Presumable the partnership which
began around 1845[6] ended in
1848 because Thomas wanted to take a break from the business as he was 66 years
old that year or he felt it was time for his sons to take over. According to city directories, the firm was
listed simply as Thomas Vyse in 1845[7]
but became Thomas Vyse & Sons in 1850[8].
A new partnership was formed in 1853[9]
and the company became known as Vyse & Sons. Richard Vyse was the senior and principal
partner, his brother Henry Vyse was second, their cousin John Reynolds was
third and another brother Thomas Andrew Vyse was fourth. Richard was responsible for the Luton side of
the business and Henry for the London operations. Thomas Andrew handled the New York branch
most likely because he was familiar with international trade having spent time
in Italy and New York earlier while working for his father. Originally the new partnership was to be for
a five-year period, however in 1855[10]
Richard died unexpectedly at age 48[11]. After his death the partnership continued
with Henry as the senior partner, John Reynolds second and Thomas Andrew
third. Then in 1859[12]
Richard Vyse’s son Edmund Waller Vyse and a new partner George Pope Thirkell
were added. The partnership between
these five individuals continued until 1864[13]. In the 1860[14]city
directory the company was listed as Vyse & Sons.
When the next partnership was formed in
1864[15],
the firm’s name was changed to Vyse, Sons & Co. because that was the way it
appeared in the 1865[16]
London directory, the first time it was listed as such. Now there were six partners involved with the
company and they were ranked in the following order based on the level of
profits assigned to them: Henry Vyse, George Pope Thirkell, John Reynolds,
Edmund Waller Vyse, Howard Vyse (Thomas Andrew Vyse’s son) and Francis Thirkell
(George Pope Thirkell’s brother). A few
months after forming this new partnership, Thomas Andrew Vyse was reinstated as
a partner, however he retired in 1865[17]
taking the New York business with him.
As a result, the 1865[18]
London city directory no longer listed the company as having a business in New
York. Four years later in 1869[19]
John Reynolds retired as well. In the
1870[20]
London Post Office directory the firm was listed in three places in the
directory’s commercial section as follows:
· Vyse,
Sons & Co. merchants & manufacturers of straw hats, millinery,
artificial flowers, feathers, mantles, babylinen
& ladies’ underclothing, 76 Wood street EC;
manufactories at Luton, Beds; St. Albans, Herts; Prato, Italy.
· Thirkell,
Francis, merchant, see Vyse, Sons & Co
· Thirkell,
George Pope, merchant, see Vyse, Sons & Co
Apparently, 
Henry Vyse
was the business’s leader for a period of time during
the 1860’s, 1870’s and 1880’s assisted by the Thirkell brothers. Sometime between 1880[21]
and 1885[22]
the firm added shops at 6 & 7 William Street in Dublin, Ireland and 160 Rue
Montmartre in Paris, France and factories at Hemel, Hempsted and Redbourne in
Hertfordshire and in Stockport, a town near Manchester. During the second half of the 19th century
the Vyse compnay participated in at least four
international fairs[23]
and obtained prize metals at London in 1851[24],
Paris in 1867[25], Vienna
in 1873[26]
and Paris again in 1878[27]. At the 1878[28]
exhibition they received the only Gold Medal ever award for straw goods. The 1880[29]
advertisement shown above provides additional information about their products
and the location of their factories that year.
Also, it was most likely during this period that Vyse, Sons & Co.
worked with William Avery of Redditch to place their name on the Quadruple
Golden Casket - Fleur di Lis needle case (pictured here), one of Avery’s most
popular designs which he registered in 1868.
It is unclear exactly who
was in charge during the 1890’s, but it was not Edmund Waller Vyse because he
died in 1890. Also, at some point George
Pope Thirkell’s son Arthur and Francis Thirkell’s sons Sidney and Claude began
working for the company. Then either
sometime before or after Henry Vyse’s death in 1892 and George Pope Thirkell’s
death in 1897 a new partnership was established between the two surviving
partners Howard Vyse and Francis Thirkell.
This partnership continued until 1900[30]
when it was dissolved, presumably because that year the firm was converted to a
limited liability company named Vyse, Sons & Co. Limited. Howard Vyse and Francis Thirkell becoming the
managing directors with Arthur Thirkell, Sidney Thirkell and Claude Thirkell as
directors[31]. In the 1901 census Howard was listed as the
chairman and Arthur Thirkell was listed as the secretary. Probably because Francis Thirkell died in
1905 and Howard Vyse in 1909, by 1914[32]
Sidney Thirkell and Claude Thirkell were managing the company. At that time the firm had warehouses at 76
Wood Street in London, which was also their main office, and others in
Manchester, Paris and Brussels and they had factories at Luton and St.
Albans. The firm continued to operate
during the first half of the 20th century but eventually ceased to exist as it
no longer appeared in newspapers after 1960[33].
The Vyse Owners
Thomas Vyse was born c1780 in Birmingham
and was baptized at St. Martin, the city’s original parish church[34]. Not much is known about his parents Andrew
and Jane Vyse, but they appear to have had some degree of wealth. How else could their son Thomas move to
London, which is 118 miles southeast of Birmingham, marry a local underage girl
there when he was only 21 and open a business that was listed in a London city
directory a year later in 1802. Thomas
married Alice Crooke in the Islington section of London in 1801 and they had 10
children between 1802 and 1822: Thomas Andrew, Alice who died two weeks after
being baptized, George Batten, Richard, William, Frederick who died at age 1,
Charles, Frederick, Maria Louise, and Henry.
At first the family lived near Wood Street, slightly northeast of St.
Paul’s Cathedral. Then they moved to
Holborn Bridge and later to Holborn Hill[35]
near St. Andrew’s church in the Holborn section of London where they remained
until at least 1822. Sometime between
1822 and 1841 they moved about 5 miles south to Herne Hill, Brixton in Lambeth,
an area originally created for wealthy families[36]. And Thomas was indeed a wealthy man as the
family had four servants in 1851: a footman, a cook and two housemaids. Also,
that year Thomas and Alice’s youngest son Henry was still living with them and
both Thomas and Henry were working as straw hat
manufacturers. Alice died there in 1855
at age 71 and was buried at the Norwood Cemetery in Lambeth. Five years later Thomas died there at age 81[37]
and was also buried at the Norwood Cemetery.
When his will was probated a month later his estate was valued at almost
£180,000 which is
approximately equal to £10,643,256[38]
today. The will was proved by the oaths
of his son-in-law John Davis Welch and his youngest son Henry Vyse.
The three sons heavily involved with the
Vyse business will be discussed individually in later paragraphs. Five of the other children of Thomas and
Alice Vyse, who were all born in Holborn, survived to adulthood but did not
work for the Vyse straw hat company or died at rather young ages or limited
information about them has been found.
George Batten Vyse was born c1805.
He appears to have married Sarah Ives in the London area in 1830 but
what happened to him after that is a mystery.
Another son William Vyse was born in 1812. When he was 22 years old in 1834 he sailed to New York with his brother Charles and
presumably helped establish the Vyse business in the USA. Unfortunately, he died there at age 31 in
1843 and was buried at the Green Wood Cemetery in Brooklyn. Charles Vyse was born c1815 and accompanied
his brother William to New York when he was 20 years old. It is unclear how long he remained in the USA
and where he lived during most of his life although he was a partner in family
business until 1848. Charles died at age
56 in 1872 of disease of the glands in the groin while living at
Camberwell-New-Road in Surrey, a district of South London next to Brixton. His estate, valued at under £8,000, was proved by his nephew
Howard Vyse and George Pope Thirkell.
The son Frederick Vyse was born c1816 and not much is known about
him. It seems most likely that Frederick
went to Florence, Italy to assist his father’s business there. At the time wide-brimmed and flat-topped hats
known as leghorns made of straw from Italian wheat, were very popular with
women. The word leghorn was the English
name for the Italian port city of Liverno, Italy[39]. Frederick died in Florence, Italy in 1840 at
age 24 and was buried at a cemetery there.
His grave contains the following phrase “Sacred to the Memory of
Frederick Vyse son of Thomas Vyse of London who departed this life in Florence
February the 28 1840”. The daughter
Marie Louise Vyse was born in 1820. She
married John Davis Welch in 1841 in Brixton and they lived in the Camberwell
section of Herne Hill, not far from her parents. Marie Louise and John had 14 children: Alice,
Louisa, John, Agnes, Ellen, Florence, Clara, Emily, Howard, Constance, Stanley,
Gertrude, Maude and Norman. Mr. Welch also worked as a straw
hat merchant and manufacturer who achieved a high degree of success as
noted in the fact that his household had either six or eight servants in each
census between 1851 and 1871. Mr. Welch
died in 1880 at age 61 and left an estate of £90,000 (£5,956,623[40]
today) to his wife and others. Maria
lived an additional 14 years and died in 1894 at age 74 and was buried at the
Norwood Cemetery in Lambeth.
Thomas Andrew Vyse was the eldest son of
Thomas and Alice Vyse. He was born in
c1802 and was baptized at St. Alban on Wood Street in London. When he was 14 years old
he was apprenticed to a warehouseman for seven years to learn how to work in
and manage a warehouse. In 1826 Thomas
Andrew married Mary Jane Fisher at St. Martin’s on Ludgate Hill in London and
they had 8 children between 1827 and 1839: Mary Jane, Florence Ann, Carlotta,
Thomas Andrew Jr., Ernest William, Emily Victoria, Faulkner
and Howard. Although at first the family lived in the Hornsey district of north
London, they spent several years in Florence and Lucca, Italy, not far from Liverno, where one of their children died in 1829 and
another was born in 1830. Presumably
Thomas Andrew was in Italy to help his father establish the Vyse business there
and to more easily obtain leghorn hats. By 1831 Thomas, Mary Jane and the children
were back in Hornsby where they remained until at least 1839. Then in 1851 the entire family moved to New
York, USA for a few years before returning to the UK sometime before 1861. After their overseas adventure, they spent
the rest of their lives in the UK, first in Hayes, a town in west London,
before moving to Brixton in south London.
Thomas Andrew was a partner in the Vyse family straw hat business from
at least 1853 until his retirement in 1865.
He died in Brixton in 1865 at age 63 of heart disease[41]
and was buried at the Norwood Cemetery in Lambeth. Thomas Andrew left an estate of £30,000 proved by the oaths of
his youngest brother Henry Vyse and his youngest son Howard Vyse who both
worked at the Vyse company’s Wood Street warehouse. His wife Mary Jane died 12 years later in
1877 at age 74.
Richard Vyse was the
third son of Thomas and Alice Vyse. He
was born c1807 at Holborn Hill and was baptized that year at St. Andrew in the
Holborn section of London. Richard married
Charlotte Waller in 1827 in Luton, Bedfordshire, a town 34 miles northwest of
London. At the time Luton was famous for
hat making, in fact the hat making industry began there in the 17th century[42]. Richard and Charlotte had 11 children who
were born there between 1829 and 1849: Ellen, Edmund Waller, Sydney, Clara,
Harriet, Richard, Emily who died in infancy[43],
William, Emily, Charles and Arthur. Richard worked as a straw
hat manufacturer in Luton his entire life and was a partner in the
family business from at least 1848 until his death, becoming the senior partner
in 1853. He died[44]
in Lambeth at his father’s residence in 1855 at age 49 of an inward ulcer of
long standing while visiting his father and was buried at the Norwood Cemetery
in Lambeth. His estate valued at £100,000[45]
(£5,912,902[46]
today) was proved by his friend Thomas Foster, his brother Henry Vyse and his eldest son Edmund Waller Vyse. Although his will is rather hard to read
because of the old style of handwriting, it provided a trust
for his 10 children who were to receive equal shares when they reached a
certain age. His youngest daughter
Emily, who was 11 years old at the time of his death, sued Mr. Foster in 1872[47]
as she did not believe she was given her fair share. The lawsuit which became known as “Vyse v
Foster” was well documented in several journals at the time and provides
excellent details regarding the partners in the Vyse company and who was in
charge from 1848 through 1869. Richard’s
wife Charlotte remained in the Luton area for some years and later moved to the
Portsmouth area, then to Marylebone in London and finally settled in Barnet a
suburb of north London where she died in 1891 at age 84.
Henry Vyse was the
youngest son of Thomas and Alice Vyse.
He was born in 1822 and baptized less than a month after his birth at
St. Andrew in Holborn. Henry lived with
parents until at least 1851 and was a partner in the Vyse family business from
at least 1845 until his death becoming the senior parent in 1864. Sometime between 1851 and 1855 Henry moved to
Westbourne Terrace in the Paddington section of London. He married Louisa Cornwall there at St.
John’s in 1855 and they had no children.
Louise died 22 years later in 1877 at age 57 in the Wandsworth section
of London just south of the Thames River.
Less than a year later in 1878, Henry married his second wife, a French
woman named Hortense Noiret, in Paris, France.
It is unclear exactly where Henry was living during most of his life
after 1877, however he died in Busigny, France, a
town in northern France near the border with Belgium, in 1892 at age 70. His estate was valued at £57,862 and his will listed his address as 76 Howard Street in Cheapside
indicating he lived in the London area and perhaps was only visiting France at
the time of his death. His will also
mentioned his nephew Howard Vyse and George Pope Thirkell who were his partners
in the Vyse straw hat business, as well as his wife Mrs. Hortense Vyse, her
sister Madame Noriet and her
brother Maurice Noriet.
Only two of the grandsons of Thomas and
Alice Vyse were partners in family’s straw hat
business: Edmund Waller Vyse and Howard Vyse.
Edmund Waller Vyse, the eldest son of Richard Vyse (c1807-1855) and
Charlotte Waller was born in 1832 in Luton.
He remained in Luton and became a partner in the Vyse family business in
1859. Presumably Edmund handled the
Luton side of the family business until sometime between 1871 and 1890 when he
moved to Westgate-on-Sea in Kent, a seaside resort 112 miles southeast of Luton. Evidently, he never married and died in
Westgate-on-Sea in 1890 at age 58 of cerebral softening and ecchymosis. His estate of £25,484 was proved by his business partners George
Pope Thirkell and Howard Vyse, also his cousin.
The other grandson, Howard Vyse, was the youngest son of Thomas Andrew
Vyse (c1802-1865) and Mary Ann Fisher.
Howard was born in 1839 in the Edmonton section of north London and
baptized at St. Mary’s in Hornsey. In
1862 he married Jane Jessie Anderson at St. James in Lambeth
and they had 3 children between 1868-1878: Maud Jessie, Henry Howard and
Catherine Howard. Howard joined the Vyse
family business as a partner in 1864 and spent his entire life working there
and living mostly in the London area. He
became the managing director and chairman of the firm when it became a limited
liability company in 1900. Howard died
in 1909 in Romford, Essex at age 70 and his wife died 13 years later in London
in 1922 at age 85. To date his probate
has not been located.
The Reynolds Owners
Unfortunately, not much has been found regarding
the John Reynolds associated with the Vyse straw hat
business because the surname is quite common in the UK. The John Reynolds who became a partner in
1853 and retired from the business in 1869 was a nephew of the founder Thomas
Vyse, meaning he was the child of one of Thomas’s sisters[48]. He was born c1804 and although it is unknown
where he lived for most of his life, he traveled to Italy as some point, most
likely to assist the Vyse business in obtaining leghorn straw hats or managing
their business there. John died in
Prato, a town 25 kilometers northwest of Florence, in 1887 and was buried in a
cemetery in Florence. His will was
probated in the UK in 1888 three months after his death. In it he was listed a Giovanni otherwise John
Reynolds which implies he had lived in Italy for some time to have adopted the
Italian name for John. His estate valued
at £11,314 was proved by
Charles Vyse Palin, who appears to be one of his cousins.
The Thirkell Owners
George Pope Thirkell, the son of William
and Ann Thirkell, was born c1820 in Hawkhurst, Kent, a town about 52 miles
southeast of London. He married Sarah
Williams in 1846 in the Camberwell section of south London and they lived in
Camberwell until at least 1861. After
George Pope joined the Vyse firm as a partner in 1859 the Thirkell family moved
to Clapham in the Wandsworth section of southwest London where they spent the
remainder of their lives. George and
Sarah had 10 children between 1847 and 1864: Emily, George Pope Jr., Frederick,
Arthur, Amy, Lucy, Percy, Edgar, Clifton, and Elizabeth. For most of his life George worked as a straw hat manufacturer or merchant and remained in the Vyse
business until his death. George’s wife
Sarah died in Clapham in 1888 at age 66 followed by George 9 years later at age
76 in 1897. George left an estate of £22,322 to his business partner
Howard Vyse and his son Arthur Thirkell.
The son Arthur Thirkell, who was born in 1853, joined his father’s
business at some point. Arthur married
Fanny Elizabeth Price in 1881 in Clapham and they had 1 child: George
Price. Arthur’s wife died shortly after
the child’s birth in 1882 at age 37 and he never remarried. In 1900 he became a director of Vyse, Sons
& Co. Limited and a year later in 1901 was listed as the secretary of a straw hat warehouse.
By 1911 Arthur was retired from the wholesale straw hat business and
spent his final days in a hospital in Dorset where he died in 1923 at age
70. His estate valued at £6,194 was left to his widowed
sister Lucy Price,
Francis William Pinnock
Thirkell was the younger brother of George Pope Thirkell. Francis was born c1823 in Benenden, Kent, a
village just east of Hawkhurst, to William and Ann Thirkell. He also moved to the London area and in 1847
married Catherine Jenkins in Islington.
Francis and Catherine had 3 children: Kate, Francis William and Ellen
Nancy before Catherine passed away in 1851 at age 29. Two years later Francis married his second
wife Mary Ann Elizabeth Thompson in Camberwell in 1853 and they had 12 children
between 1854 and 1873: Sidney, Ernest, Walter, Alice Ada, Howard, Blanche,
Horace Vyse, Claude, Lina Marion, Ethel Francis, Beatrice Maud
and Leonard. Over the years Francis and
his family lived in the Camberwell, Lewisham, Croydon
and Penge sections of London. His second
wife died in Croydon in 1875 at age 42.
Francis worked as a warehouseman and straw hat
maker for a number of years becoming a partner in the Vyse business in 1864 and
then in 1900 a managing director after the firm became a limited liability
company. In 1901 Francis was living in
his daughter Kate’s household on the Isle of Wight and 4 years later in 1905 he
died in Battle, Sussex near Hastings at age 82.
He left as estate of £886
to his son Sidney Thirkell who was a company director at the time and several
others.
Two of his sons of Francis William Pinnock
Thirkell worked in the Vyse business at the time of his death in 1905: Sidney
and Claude. Sidney Thirkell was born in
1854 in Lewisham. He married Amelia Webb
in 1879 in Lewisham and they had 2 children: Elsie Webb and Dora Webb. At first the family lived in the Bromley
section of south London later moving to Chatham, Kent,
a town 32 miles southeast of London.
Sometime between 1881 and 1891 they returned to the London area and
settle in the town of Beckenham, 10 miles south of London, where they remained
until at least 1901. During most of
those years Sidney worked as a warehouseman and at some point
joined the straw hat business that later became known as of Vyse, Sons &
Co. Limited where he became a director in 1900.
Sidney died in 1926 in Tenderen, Kent, a town 60 miles southeast of
London and left as estate valued at £12,319
to his wife Amelia. The other son of
Francis William Pinnock Thirkell was Claude Thirkell who was born in 1867 in
Lewisham. In 1892 Claude married Miriam
Harriet Hordern at St. John’s in Westminster.
Claude and Miriam had 3 children between 1893 and 1905: Anthony Hordern
Claude who died within a few months of birth, Vera Hordern and Vernon Hordern. They lived in the Bromley area for a few
years, then also moved to Beckenham not far from his
brother Sidney. Claude worked as a
warehouseman and by 1900 was also a director at Vyse, Sons and Co.
Limited. He died in 1944 in Battle, Kent
at age 77 and his estate was valued at £77,621. His wife Miriam
died 3 months later in Leonard-on-Sea, near Hastings.
Vyse,
Sons & Co.: Images
Quadruple
-Fleur di Lis detail with the Vyse name
Wood
Street sign, 2023.
Vyse,
Sons & Co.: Genealogy
Vyse Generation 1:
Thomas Vyse (c1780/82-1861) and Alice Crooke (c1784-1855)
· Born: c1780
(marriage allegation and death notice), c1782 (S4 and S7).
· Baptized: February 1, 1782 St.
Martin, Birmingham (S1c). Listed as
Thomas Vize with parents Andrew and Jane Vize.
· Marriage
Allegation April 29, 1801 Hornsey, Middlesex (S=London
and Surrey, England Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1597-1921 available at
ancestry.com). Listed as Thomas Vyse of
St. Alban Wood Street, London a bachelor 21 and afterwards intendeth
to marry Alice Crooke of Hornsey, Middlesex a spinster and minor with the
consent of her father Thomas Crooke.
· Marriage: May 2, 1801 Hornsey Rise, Islington (S3). Listed as Thomas Vyse and Alice Crooke (note:
the marriage band index incorrectly listed the bands year as 1800).
· 1841 Census: Herne Hill, Brixton, Lambeth (S4). Listed as Thomas Tyre
age 59 a merchant not born in the county and Alice age 55 not born in the
county and Henry age 19 not born in the county and
possible 5 servants. (Note: The surname
is very hard to read and appears to be Tyse which could mean the pronunciation
of Vyse sounded like Tyse. All of the other information appears to pretty much match
with the three individuals who appear in the 1851 census).
· 1851 Census: 13
the Abbey Herne Hill, Brixton, Lambeth (S4).
Listed as Thomas Vyse age 69 a merchant and straw hat manufacturer born
in Warwickshire with wife Alice age 67 born in Middlesex, 1 son Henry age 28 a
merchant and straw hat manufacturer born in Middlesex, 1 grandson Edmund age 19 a merchants
clerk born in Bedfordshire and 4 servants: 1 footman, 1 cook and 2 housemaids.
· Wife’s Death: 1st
QTR 1855 Lambeth, London (S5d). Listed
as Alice Vyse.
· Wife’s Burial:
March 23, 1855 Norwood Cemetery, Lambeth (S7). Listed as Alice Vyse age 71 of The Abbey
Herne Hill.
·
Wife’s Probate: not found.
· Death: 1st QTR 1861 Lambeth, London (S5d). Listed as Thomas Vyse. January 8, 1861
Herne-hill (S6),
· Burial: January
16, 1861 Norwood Cemetery, Lambeth (S7). Listed as Thomas Vyse age 79 of The Abbey
Herne Hill.
· Death Notice:
Illustrated London News newspaper dated January 12, 1861, page 14, column 1
(S=https://britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk).
Listed as Thomas Vyse Esq. who died at his residence The Abbey, Herne
Hill, Surrey at age 81.
· Probate: February
15, 1861 Principle Registry with a 10 page will dated August 3, 1855, a 7 page
indenture dated May 16, 1854 and two codicils on 3 pages dated September 3,
1855 and July 4, 1859 (S=original documents obtain from the GOV.UK website at https://probatesearch. service. gov.uk/). Listed as Thomas Vyse Esquire late of
Herne-hill, Surrey and Wood-street Cheapside, London, a leghorn hat merchant
with effects under £180,000
proved by the oaths of his son-in-law John Davis Welch of 4 Gutter-lane a straw hat merchant and his son Henry Vyse of 76 Wood-street
a straw hat merchant the executors.
These documents list the following individuals:
§ Children: son
Thomas Andrew Vyse with his wife Mary Jane, son Henry Vyse, son Charles Vyse
including a couple references to him in America, daughter Maria Louisa Welch
with husband John Davis Welch, son Richard Vyse, daughter-in-law Charlotte Vyse
widow of his late son Richard Vyse and daughter-in-law Sarah Vyse now Betrou a widow by whom his deceased son William Vyse had a
child named William Henry Vyse also now in America.
§ Others: sister Mrs. Ann Stubbs Palin and several of
her children, nephew John Reynolds the son of his sister Caroline Reynolds,
several nieces Maria Vyse and Miss Agnes Vyse the daughters of his brother
Charles Vyse, Mrs. Vyse of Ludgate Hill the widow of Charles Vyse, Mrs. Maria
Palin wife of Charles Palin, George Faulkner and
Phillip Walter.
· Children:
1.
Thomas
Andrew Vyse (c1802-1865). See Vyse
Generation 2.
2.
Alice
Vyse (c1804-1804). Baptized: May 2, 1804 St. Andrew,
Holborn, Camden, London (S1c), listed as Alice with parents Thomas and Alice
Vyse of Holborn Bridge (note: the baptism index incorrectly lists the baptism
dated as April 2, 1804). Burials: May
16, 1804 St. Andrew, Holborn, Camden London (S7),
listed as Alice Vyse of Holborn Bridge.
3.
George
Batten Vyse (c1805-??). Baptized: April 28, 1805 St.
Andrew, Holborn, Camden, London (S1c), listed as George with parents Thomas and
Alice Vyse of Holborn Bridge. Possible
Marriage: March 11, 1830
St. Mary, Whitechapel, Towers Hamlets (S3), listed as George Batten Vyse and
Sarah Ives. (Note: unable to locate additional information about this person
after additional searches).
4.
Richard
Vyse (c1807-1855). See Vyse Generation
2.
5.
William
Vyse (1812-1843). Born: June 21, 1812
(S1c). Baptized: July 10, 1812 St. Andrew, Holborn, Camden, London (S1c), listed as
William with parents Thomas and Alice Vyse of Holborn Hill. Passenger List: Departed Liverpool and
arrived in New York, USA on January 2, 1834 (S=New York, U.S., Arriving
Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1958 available at ancestry.com), listed as
William Vyse age 22 a merchant from England with Charles Vyse age 20 a merchant
from England (note: the passenger index
incorrectly lists the year as 1835).
Death: December 29, 1843 New York (S=New York, U.S., Death Newspaper Extracts,
1801-1890 available on ancestry.com), listed as William Vyse, the son of Thomas
of London, of 119 Waverly Road with publication date December 30, 1843. Buried: Green-wood cemetery, Brooklyn, NY
(S=U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s=Current at ancestry.com and the Find a Grave
website), listed as William Vyse who was born June 25, 1812
in Holborn, Camden, Greater London and who died December 29, 1843 in Manhattan,
NY. Probate: February 20, 1844 New York, NY (S=New York, U.S. Wills and Probate
Records, 1659-1999), listed as William Vyse a merchant with his next of kin
listed as Thomas Vyse who lived in England.
6.
Frederick
Vyse (c1814-1814). Baptized: January
28, 1814 St. Andrew, Holborn, Camden, London (S1c),
listed as Frederic with parents Thomas and Alice Vyse of 59 Holborn with
father’s occupation listed as straw hat manufacturer. Burials: December 8, 1814
St. Andrew, Holborn, Camden London (S7), listed as Frederick Vyse of Holborn
age 1.
7.
Charles
Vyse (c1815-1872). Baptized: March 25, 1815 St. Andrew, Holborn, Camden, London (S1c), listed as
Charles with parents Thomas and Alice Vyse of 59 Holborn Hill with father’s
occupation listed as straw hat maker.
Passenger List: Departed Liverpool and arrived in New York, USA on
January 2, 1834 (S=New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1958
available at ancestry.com), listed as Charles Vyse age 20 a merchant from
England with William Vyse age 22 a merchant from England (note: the passenger
index incorrectly lists the year as 1835).
Charles was a partner in the Vyse family straw hat business from at
least 1845 until 1848 (S=see the Company history section of this chapter for
source information). Death: January 23, 1872 Kennington, Lambeth, London (S8d), listed as Charles
Vyse age 56 a gentleman who died at 9 Camberwell New Road of disease of the
glands in the groin; January 23, 1872 at 9 Camberwell-New-Road (S6). Burial: January 26, 1872
Norwood Cemetery, Lambeth (S7), listed as Charles Vyse of 9 Camberwell New Road
age 56. Probate: February 16, 1872 Principal Registry (S6), listed as Charles Vyse a
gentleman late of 9 Camberwell-New-road, Surrey with effects under £8,000 proved by Howard Vyse of
Thames Bank Sunbury, Middlesex and of 76 Wood-street Cheapside merchant and
nephew and George Pope Thirkell of 76 Wood-street merchant the executors. Additional probate records included this
statement “two of the Executors named in the said Will they having been first
sworn duly to administer, power being reserved of granting Probate of the said
Will to John Reynolds the other Executor named in the said Will” (S=probate
search at https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk). (Note: unable to
locate additional information about this person after additional searches).
8.
Frederick
Vyse (c1816-1840). Baptized: May 3, 1816 St. Andrew, Holborn, Camden, London (S1c), listed as
Frederick Vyse with parents Thomas and Alice Vyse. Death: February 28, 1840 and buried at Cimitero Accatolico, Florence,
Italy (S=Italy, Find a Grave Index, 1800s-Current available at ancestry.com and
the Find a Grave website), listed as Frederick Vyse with the following
inscription on his grave “Sacred to the Memory of Frederick Vyse son of Thomas
Vyse of London who departed this life in Florence February the 28 1840”.
9.
Maria
Louise Vyse (1820-1894). Born: April 29,
1820 (S1c). Baptized: May 26, 1820 St. Andrew,
Holborn, Camden, London (S1c), listed as Maria Louise with parents Thomas and
Alice Vyse of Holborn Hill with father’s occupation listed as straw hat
maker. Marriage: May 11, 1841 St. Matthew, Brixton, Lambeth (S3), listed as Maria
Louise Vyse a spinster who resided in Brixton with her father listed as Thomas
Vyse a merchant and John Davis Welch. 1851 Census: 186 Herne Hill, Camberwell, Surrey (S4). Listed as John A. Welsh age
32 a straw hat merchant born in London with wife Maria L. age 30 born in
London, 6 children: Alice, Louise, John, Agnes, Ellen and Florence all born in Dulwick, Surrey, 1 cousin Agnes Vyse age 20 and 6 servants
(note: the cousin is incorrectly listed in the census index with the surname Tyre). 1861 Census:
83 Herne Hill, Camberwell, Surrey (S4).
Listed as John D. Welsh age 42 a straw hat
merchant born in London with wife Maria L. age 40 born in Hornsey, 10 children:
Alice, Louisa, Agnes, Ellen, Florence, Clara, Emily, Howard, Constance and
Stanley all born in Herne Hill, Surrey, 1 governess and 5 servants. 1871 Census: 96 Herne Hill, Camberwell,
Surrey (S4), listed as John D. Welsh age 52 a straw
hat merchant manufacturer with wife Maria L. age 50, 9 children: Alice, Louise,
Ellen, Florence, Clara, Constance, Gertrude, Maude and Norman, 1 visitor and 8
servants (note: this page of the 1871 census does not list an individual’s
birthplace). Husband’s Death: 2nd QTR
1880 Camberwell, London (S5d), listed as John Davis Welch age 61; April 7, 1880 Herne Hill (S6). Husband’s Probate: April 30, 1880
Principal Registry (S6), listed as John Davis Welch late of Gutter-lane
Cheapside, London and of Herne Hill a straw hat merchant and manufacturer with
effects under £90,000
proved by Maria Louise Welch of Herne Hill widow, John Welch of Simla Lodge Tulse Hill Esquire
the son, Alfred Phippen Welch of Hart Hill Luton, Bedford Esquire the brother
and Charles Edward Gaselee of 90 Lower-Thames-street,
London barge owner the executors. Death:
3rd QTR 1894 Kingston, Surrey (S5d), listed as Maria Louisa Welch; September
24, 1894 (S6). Burial: September 27, 1894 Norwood
Cemetery, Lambeth, London (7), listed as Maria Louise Welch of Westcroft Kingston Hill age 74. Probate: November 2, 1894
London (S6), listed as Maria Louise Welch of Westcrodt
Kingston hill, Surrey widow with effects £7,465 to John Welch straw hat merchant and Howard Vyse Welch
captain in Her Majesty’s militia.
10.
Henry
Vyse (c1822-1892). See Vyse Generation
2.
Vyse Generation 2:
Thomas Andrew Vyse (c1802-1865) and Mary Jane Fisher (c1803-1877)
· Born: February 2, 1802 (S1c).
· Baptized: February 28, 1802
St. Alban Wood St, London (S1c). Listed
as Thomas Andrew with parents Thomas and Alice Vyse.
· Apprentice
Indenture: October 1, 1816 (S=London, England, Freedom of the City Admission
Papers available at ancestry.com).
Listed as Thomas Vyse son of Thomas Vyse of
Holborn, London straw hat maker doth put himself apprentice to Samuel Savage of
London by trade a warehouseman, term 7 years.
· Marriage: March 2, 1826 St.
Martin, Ludgate, London (S3). Listed as
Thomas Andrew Vyse and Mary Jane Fisher.
·
1841 Census: not found.
· Passenger Lists:
arrival August 4, 1851 from Liverpool to New York
(S=New York, US Arriving Passengers and Crew Lists, 1820-1957 available at
ancestry.com). Listed as Thomas A. Vyse age 50 of England with the following
Vyse family members: Mary Jane, Mary Jane, Carlotta, Thomas A. Jr., Ernest W.,
Emile V., Faulkner and Howard.
·
1851 Census: not found.
· 1861 Census: 117
Park House, Hayes, Uxbridge, Middlesex (S4).
Listed as Thomas A. Vyse a visitor age 59 and fundholder born in London with wife Mary J. Vyse
the cousin of head of household age 56 lady wife of T. A. Vyse esq. born in
Islington living with Louisa Davis age 36.
· Death: 1st QTR 1865 Wandsworth, London (S5d). Listed as Thomas Andrew Vyse. March 30, 1865
Gothic Cottage, Roupell Park, Brixton (S6).
· Burial: April 4, 1865
Norwood Cemetery Lambeth (S7). Listed as
Thomas Andrew Vyse of Gothic Cottage Roupell Park,
Brixton age 63.
· Probate: April 24,
1866 Principal Registry (S6). Listed as Thomas Andrew Vyse late of Gothic Cottage Roupell Park, Brixton, Surrey with effects under £20,000 resworn
September 1866 under £30,000
proved by the oaths of Henry Vyse of 76 Wood Street, London and 23
Westbourne-terrace, Middlesex a straw hat manufacturer warehouseman and
merchant the brother and Howard Vyse of 76 Wood -Street and of 38
Sussex-gardens, Hyde Park a straw hat manufacturer warehouseman and merchant
the son the executors.
·
1871 Census of Wife: not found.
· Wife’s Death: 4th
QTR 1877 Wandsworth, London (S5d).
Listed as Mary Jane Vyse age 74. December 16, 1877
at Wood House (S6).
·
Wife’s Burial: not found.
· Wife’s Probate:
March 6, 1878 Principal Registry (S6). Listed as Mary Jane Vyse late of Wood House
Wimbledon Park, Wimbledon, Surrey widow with effects under £12,000 proved by Howard Vyse of
76 Wood-street, London merchant the son and William Schall of 22 Avenue
Friedland Paris in France banker the executors.
· Children:
1.
Mary
Jane Vyse (c1827-??). Baptized: December
24, 1827 and recorded 1835 at St. Mary, Hornsey,
Middlesex (S1c). Listed as Mary Jane
with parents Mary Jane Vyse of Hornsey with father’s occupation listed as
merchant.
2.
Florence
Ann Vyse (c1828-1829). Born: c1828 and Death: October 21, 1829
and buried at Cimitero Accatolico,
Florence, Italy (S=Italy, Find a Grave Index, 1800s-Current available at
ancestry.com and the Find a Grave website).
Listed as Florence Ann Vyse with the following inscription on her grave
“Sacred to the Memory of a Beloved Child Florence Ann Vyse Who Died October 2, 1829 Aged 16 Months”.
3.
Carlotta
Vyse (c1830-??). Baptized: August 16, 1830 and recorded 1835 at St. Mary, Hornsey, Middlesex
(S1c). Listed as Carletta with parents
Thomas Andrew and Mary Jane Vyse of Lucca Baths, Italy with father’s occupation
listed as merchant.
4.
Thomas
Andrew Vyse Jr. (c1831-1913). Born: 1831 (S2 with several source
documents). Baptized: July 30, 1835 and recorded 1835 at St. Mary, Hornsey, Middlesex (S1c),
listed as Thomas Andrew with parents Thomas Andrew and Mary Jane Vyse of
Hornsey with father’s occupation listed as merchant. Also listed on 1851 father’s passenger list. Burial: August 30, 1913
Green Wood Cemetery, Kings, New York, USA (S=Brooklyn, New York, U.S., Green
Wood Cemetery Burial Index available at ancestry.com), listed as Thomas A. Vyse
whose last residence was Glen Ridge, New Jersey who died on August 28, 1913 at
ae 82.
5.
Ernest
William Vyse (c1835-??). Baptized: July
30, 1835 and recorded 1835 at St. Mary, Hornsey,
Middlesex (S1c). Listed as Ernest
William with parents Thomas Andrew and Mary Jane Vyse of Hornsey with father’s
occupation listed as merchant.
6.
Emily
Victoria Vyse (1836-??). Born: August
31, 1836 and baptized October 3, 1837 St. Mary,
Hornsey, Middlesex (S1c). Listed as
Emily Victoria with parents Thomas Andrew and Mary Jane Vyse of Hornsey with
father’s occupation listed as merchant.
7.
Faulkner
Vyse (1838-1863). Born: 3rd QTR 1838 (GRO Online Index), listed as Faulkner
Vyse with mother’s maiden name Fisher.
Also listed on 1851 father’s passenger list. Death: January 20, 1863
New York (S6). Burial: January 23, 1863 Green Wood Cemetery, Kings, New York, USA (S=Brooklyn,
New York, U.S., Green Wood Cemetery Burial Index available at ancestry.com),
listed as Faulkner Vyse. Probate: March
5, 1878 Principle Registry (S6), listed as Faulkner
Vyse of New York in the United States of America a gentleman with a personal
estate under £9,000 granted
to Howard Vyse of 76 Wood-street Cheapside esquire one of the executors of the
will of Thomas Andrew Vyse the father and next of kin.
8.
Howard
Vyse (1839-1909). See Vyse Generation 3.
Vyse Generation 2:
Richard Vyse (c1807-1855) and Charlotte Waller (c1807-1891)
· Born: c1807 (S4).
· Baptized: June 7, 1807 St.
Andrew, Holborn, London (S1c). Listed as
Richard with parents Thomas and Alice Vyse of Holborn Hill.
· Marriage: February 21, 1827
St. Mary, Luton, Bedford (S1m). Listed
as Richard Vyse age 20 whose father was Thomas Vyse and Charlotte Waller.
· 1841 Census:
Wester side Clark St., Luton, Bedfordshire (S4). Listed as Richard Vyse age 30 a straw hat M not born in the county with Charlotte age 30
born in the county and 6 children: Edmund, Sydney, Clara, Harriet, Richard and
Emile.
· 1851 Census: 23 London Road Holly Lodge, Luton,
Bedfordshire (S4). Listed as Richard
Vyse age 44 a straw plait and Tuscan merchant and manufacturer born in London
with wife Charlotte age 44 born in Luton and 6
children: Ellen, Sydney, Harriet, Richard, William, Emily, Charles and Arthur,
5 servants, 1 gardener, 1 dress maker, 1 groom, 1 laundry maid and 2 children
of these servants.
· Death: 3rd QTR 1855 Lambeth, London (S5d). Listed as Richard Vyse.
· Burial: July 20, 1855 Norwood Cemetery, Lambeth, London (S7). Listed as Richard Vyse of Luton removed from
Herne Hill age 48.
· Will Probated:
August 3, 1855 (S6). Listed as Richard
Vyse of Luton, Bedfordshire a straw hat and merchant which lists a friend
Thomas Foster, a brother Henry Vyse and a son Edmund Vyse (note: the will index incorrectly lists the town as Sutton).
· 1861 Census for
Wife: 128 Holly Lodge London Road, Luton, Bedfordshire (S4). Listed as Charlotte Vyse
a widow age 54 living as an independent lady born in
Luton with 3 children: Clara, Richard and Harriet, 1 cousin Emily Vyse age 24
born in Hornsey, Middlesex and 3 servants.
· 1871 Census for
Wife: 226 Queen Rd Southsea V3, Portsea, Portsmouth, Hampshire (S4). Listed as Charlotte Vyse
a widow age 64 with no occupation born in Luton,
Bedford with 1 visitor and 2 servants.
· 1881 Census for
Wife: 4 Manifield
St., Marylebone, London (S4). Listed as
Charlotte Vyse a widow age 74 an annuitant born in
Luton, Berks with 1 grandson and 3 servants
· 1891 Census: 61
High Street, South Mimms, Barnet, Middlesex (S4). Listed as Charlotte Vyse a blind widow age 84 with no occupation born in St. Peters, Herts with 1
daughter Emma Vyse age 49 a grocer born in North Mimms and 1 visitor.
· Wife’s Death: 3rd
QTR 1891 Barnet, Middlesex (S5d). Listed
as Charlotte Vyse age 84
·
Wife’s Burial: not found.
·
Wife’s Probate: not found.
· Children:
1.
Ellen
Charlotte Vyse (c1829-??). 1851
Censuses: with parents.
2.
Edmund
Waller Vyse (1832-1890). See Vyse
Generation 3
3.
Sydney
Vyse (c1834-1857). 1841 and 1851
Censuses: with parents.
4.
Clara
Vyse (c1836-1918) . 1841 and 1861 Censuses: with
parents.
5.
Harriet
Vyse (1838-1909). Born: 2nd QTR 1838
Luton (S=GRO online index). Listed as
Harriet Vyse with mother’s maiden name listed was Waller.
6.
Richard
Vyse (1840-??). Born: 1st QTR 1840
Luton (S=GRO online index). Listed as
Richard Vyse with mother’s maiden name listed was Waller.
7.
Emily
Vyse (1841-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1841 Luton (S=GRO online index). Listed as Emily Vyse with mother’s maiden
name listed was Waller.
8.
William
Vyse (1842-??). Born: 4th QTR 1842 Luton
(S=GRO online index). Listed as William
Vyse with mother’s maiden name listed was Waller.
9.
Emily
Vyse (1845-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1845 Luton
(S=GRO online index). Listed as Emily
Vyse with mother’s maiden name listed was Waller.
10.
Charles
Vyse (1847-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1847 Luton
(S=GRO online index). Listed as Charles
Vyse with mother’s maiden name listed was Waller.
11.
Arthur
(1849-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1849 Luton
(S=GRO online index). Listed as Harriet
Arthur with mother’s maiden name listed was Waller.
Vyse Generation 2:
Henry Vyse (1822-1892) and Louisa Cornwall (c1820-1877)
· Born: June 10, 1822 (S1c).
· Baptized: July 2, 1822 St.
Andrew, Holborn, London (S1c). Listed as
Henry with parents Thomas and Alice Vyse of Holborn Hill with father occupation
listed as straw hat manufacturer
· 1841 Census: with
parents (S4). Listed as Henry Vyse age
19 with no occupation not born in the county.
· 1851 Census: with
parents (S4). Listed as Henry Vyse
unmarried age 28 a merchant and straw hat manufacturer
born in Middlesex.
· Marriage #1: February 3, 1855 St.
Johns, Paddington, Westminster (S3).
Listed as Henry Vyse a bachelor and merchant who resided at Westbourne
Terrace whose father was Thomas Vyse Esquire and Louisa Cornwall a spinster.
· 1861 Census: 22
Westbourne Terrace, Paddington, Marylebone, London (S4). Listed as Henry Vyse age 38 a gent merchant born in undecipherable with wife Louisa age
40 born in Essex and 6 servants.
·
1871 Census: not found.
· Wife #1’s Death:
2nd QTR 1877 Wandsworth (S5d). Listed as
Louisa Vyse age 57.
·
Wife #1’s Burial: not found.
· Wife #1’s Probate: not found.
· Marriage #2: Bands - January 1878 Paris, France (S=Paris,
France & Vicinity Marriage Bands, 1860-1902 available at ancestry.com),
listed as Henry Vyse and Hortense Noiret. Marriage: February 2, 1878 Paris,
France (S=Paris, France, Births, Marriages, and Deaths, 1792-1930 available at
ancestry.com), listed a Henry Vyse son of Thomas and Alice Vyse who was born in
London, England on
June 20, 1822 and Ortence Noiret.
·
1881 Census: not found.
·
1891 Census: not found.
· Death: March 31, 1892 at Busigny in the Nord Department, France (S6)
·
Burial: not found.
· Probate: June 30, 1892 London
(S6). Listed as Henry Vyse of 76 Howard
Street Cheapside, London esquire with effects £57,862 to Howard Vyse and George Pope Thirkell
esquires. His will also mentioned his
wife Mrs. Hortense Vyse, her sister Madame Noiret and brother Maurice Noiret
(S=Luton Times and Advertiser newspaper dated August 5, 1892, page 5, column 1,
section entitled Will of the Late Mr. Henry Vyse at https://www.britishnews
paperarchive.co.uk).
·
Wife #2’s Death: not found.
·
Wife #2’s Burial: not found.
· Wife #2’s Probate: not found.
· Children: none
(S=a search of the GRO online index for male and female births between
1837-1860 with a mother’s maiden name of Cornwall was done and no births
appeared).
Vyse Generation 3:
Edmund Waller Vyse (1832-1890)
· Born: February 20, 1832
Lutton, Bedfordshire from certificate dated October 29, 1832 and signed by the
registrar in Cripplegate, London November 27, 1832
(S=England, Wales, Non-conformist and Non Parochial Registers, 1567-1936
available at ancestry.com). Listed as
Edmund Waller Vyse who was born at the Vyse house on Park Street with parents
Richard and Charlotte Vyse with father’s occupation listed as straw hat manufacturer.
·
Baptized: not found.
· 1841 Census: with
parents (S4). Listed as Edmund Vyse age
10 born in the county.
· 1851 Census: with
Vyse grandparents (S4). Listed as Edmund
Vyse age 19 an unmarried merchant’s clerk born in Bedfordshire.
· 1861 Census: not found.
· Marriage: not
married.
· 1871 Census: 24
Holly Lodge, Castle Street, Luton, Bedfordshire (S4). Listed as Edmund Waller Vyse unmarried age 39
a merchant born in Luton with 1 butler and 2 servants.
·
1881 Census: not found.
· Death: April 11, 1890 Margate, Thant, Kent (S8d), listed as Edmund Waller Vye
age 58 a man of independent means who died of cerebral softening and ecchymosis
at 4 Westgate Road, Westgate-on-Sea with of Hannah Greene present at his death.
April 11, 1890
at 4 Westgate Road (S6).
· Burial: April 11, 1890 Margate Cemetery, Margate, Thanet District, Kent
(S7). Listed as Edmund Waller Vyse.
· Probate: July 8, 1890 Principal Registry (S6). Listed as Edmund Waller Vyse Esq formerly of
Luton but late of 4 Westgate-road, Westgate-on-sea, Kent with effects £25,484 proved by George Pope
Thirkell and Howard Vyse both of 76 Wood-street, Cheapside London esquires the excutors.
· Children: no
children.
Vyse Generation 3:
Howard Vyse (1839-1909) and Jane Jessie Anderson (c1837-1922)
· Born: 4th QTR 1839 Edmonton (S=GRO online index),
listed as unnamed Wyse with mother’s maiden name listed as Fisher. November 5, 1839 (S1c).
· Baptized: July 17, 1840 St.
Mary, Hornsey, Middlesex (S1c). Listed
as Howard with parents Thomas Andrew and Mary Jane Vyse of Hornsey with
father’s occupation listed as merchant,
·
1841 Census: not found.
·
1851 Census: not found.
· 1861 Census: 129 Gt Cram St, St. Gilles Blomsbury, London (S4).
Listed as Howard Vyse an unmarried lodger age
21 a straw hat merchant born in Hornsey, Middlesex living in the household of
George Reid age 40 a hospital secretary and the Reid family (note: the census
index incorrectly lists the surname as Vase).
· Marriage: October
15, 1862 St. James, Clapham Park, Lambeth (S5m). Listed as Howard Vyse a bachelor and merchant
who lived at Thealham whose father was Thomas Andrew
Vyse a gentleman and Jane Jessie Anderson spinster.
· 1871 Census: 100
Thames Bank, Sunbury, Middlesex (S4).
Listed as Howard Vyse age 33 a merchant and straw hat
manufacturer born in Hornsey with wife Jane J. age 32 born in Bishopgate, 1 child Maude J., 1 father-in-law, 1
mother-in-law and 5 servants (note: the census index incorrectly lists the
surname as Vosse).
·
1881 Census: not found.
· 1891 Census:
Gloucester Road, Bailey’s Hotel, Kensington, London (S4). Listed as Howard Vyse a boarder age 51 a merchant manufacturer born in London with wife Jane
J. age 52 born in London.
· 1901 Census: 33
The Woldermus, Wokingham, Early, Berkshire (S4). Listed as Howard Vyse age 61 a merchant and
chairman limited comp born in London with wife Jane J. age 63 born in London, 2
children: Maud J. and Catherine, 1 visitor and 8 servants.
· Death: November 7,
1909 Ilford, Romford, Essex (S5d). Listed as Howard Vyse age 70 a retired
feather merchant who died at 43 Douglas Road of tongue and throat cancer with
his daughter M. J. Vyse present at his death.
·
Burial: not found.
·
Probate: not found.
· Wife’s Death: 4th
QTR 1922 St. George Hanover Square (S5d).
Listed as Jane J. Vyse age 85.
·
Wife’s Burial: not found.
·
Wife’s Probate: not found.
· Children: (S=a
search of the GRO online index for male and female births between 1860-1885
with a mother’s maiden name of Anderson was done and these are the only three
found).
1.
Maud
Jessie Vyse (1868-??). Born: 3rd QTR
Kensington (S=GRO Online Index). Listed
as Maud Jessie Vyse with mother’s maiden name Anderson.
2.
Henry
Howard Vyse (1874-??). Born: 4th QTR
Saint George Hanover Square (S=GRO Online Index). Listed as Henry Howard Vyse with mother’s
maiden name Anderson.
3.
Catherine
Howard Vyse (1878-??). Born: 4th QTR Wandsworth (S=GRO Online Index). Listed as Catherin Howard Vyse with mother’s
maiden name Anderson.
John Reynolds (c1804-1887)
(Note:
numerous searches were done of the 1841, 1851, 1861 and 1871 censuses
for individuals named John Reynolds who lived in the London area. Although there were a number of people with
that name, no one was found with the occupation of straw hat
maker/manufacturer or something similar.
Additionally, London post office and trade
directories were searched and nothing was found there
either. The only known information about
the John Reynolds associated with the Vyse company is listed here.)
·
Born: c1804 (S2).
·
Possible parents:
A generation chart on ancestry.com partially based on the 1855 will of
Thomas Vyse indicates John Reynold’s mother was Caroline Reynolds, the sister
of Thomas Vyse. Possible Marriage Bands:
October 17, 1795 St. Helen, Bishopgate,
London (S3), listed as Jeremiah Reynolds a bachelor and Carolina Vyse a
spinster.
·
Death: December 30, 1887 at
Villa Talano, Prato, Tuscany, Italy (S6).
·
Burial: Cimitero Evangelico degli Alloir, Florence, Italy (S=Italy Find a Grave Index,
1800-Current available at ancestry.com).
Listed as John Reynolds who was born in 1804 and died on December 30,
1887.
·
Probate: April 9, 1888
Principal Registry (S6). Listed as
Giovanni otherwise John Reynolds late of Villa Talano,
Prato, Tuscany, Italy gentleman with a personal estate of £11,314 proved by Charles Vyse Palin of Hatherly
Preston Park, Brighton gentleman one of the executors (note: the probate index
incorrectly lists his death place as Sussex).
Thirkell Generation 1: George Pope Thirkell (c1820-1897)
and Sarah Williams (c1822-1888)
· Born: c1821 (S4) (S5d).
· Baptized: November 5, 1820
Parish Church of Hawkhurst, Hawkhurst, Kent (S1c). Listed as George Pope Thirkel
with parents William and Ann Thirkel.
·
1841 Census: not found.
· Marriage: 3rd QTR 1846 Camberwell (S5m). Listed as George Pope Thirkell and Sarah
Williams.
· 1851 Census: not found.
· 1861 Census: Clifton Villa, St. Giles, Camberwell, Surrey
(S4). Listed as George J. Thirkell age
40 a straw hat manufacturer and merchant born in Kent
with wife Sarah age 39 born in Brompton and 3 children: Lucy, Percy and Edgar,
1 visitor William Thirkell age 67 a grandfather and 1 sister Helen Thirkell age
29 and 3 servants (note: the census index incorrectly lists the surname a
Thirkill).
· 1870 London Post
Office Directory (S=ancestry.com): Page 1282 lists George Pope Thirkell,
Merchant, see Vyse, Sons & Co.
· 1871 Census: 11 Meaburn, Clapham, Wandsworth, Surrey (S4). Listed as George Pope Thirkell age 50 a
merchant and straw hat manufacturer born in Bevenden, Kent with wife Sarah age 49 born in Brompton and
4 children: Lucy, Edgar, Percy and Clifton, 1 visitor and 3 servants (note: the
census index incorrectly lists the surname a Thirkill).
·
1881 Census: not found.
· Wife’s Death: 4th
QTR 1888 Wandsworth, London (S5d).
Listed as Sarah Thirkell age 66.
· Wife’s Burial:
November 10, 1888 Norwood Cemetery, Lambeth, London
(S7). Listed as Sara Thirkell of Meaburn, Clapham age 66.
·
Wife’s Probate:
· 1891 Census: 9 Meaburn, Clapham, Wandsworth, Surrey (S4). Listed as George Thirkell a widower age 70 a merchant born in Bevenden,
Kent with son Arthur age 37 a merchants clerk born in Camberwell and 3
servants.
· Death: 3rd QTR 1897 Wandsworth, London (S5d). Listed as George Pope Thirkell age 76. August 21, 1897 (S6).
·
Burial: not found.
· Probate: October 30, 1897
London (S6). Listed a George Pope
Thirkell of “Meaburn” Clapham-Park, Surrey and 76
Wood-street, London with effects £22,322
to Howard Vyse and Arthur Thirkell esquires.
· Children: (S=a
search of the GRO online index for male and female births between 1846-1870
with a mother’s maiden name of Williams was done and only nine were found. Clifton Thirkell’s birth was not found).
1.
Emily
Thirkell (1847-??). Born: 4th QTR 1847
Camberwell (S=GRO Online Index). Listed
as Emily Thirkell with mother’s maiden name Williams.
2.
George
Pope Thirkell (1850-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1850 Camberwell (S=GRO Online
Index). Listed as George Pope Thirkell
with mother’s maiden name Williams.
3.
Frederick
Thirkell (1852-??). Born: 1st QTR 1852
Camberwell (S=GRO Online Index). Listed
as Frederick Thirkell with mother’s maiden name Williams.
4.
Arthur Thirkell (1853-1923). See Thirkell Generation 2
5.
Amy
Thirkell (1855-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1855
Camberwell (S=GRO Online Index). Listed
as Amy Thirkell with mother’s maiden name Williams.
6.
Lucy
Thirkell (1857-??). Born: 1st QTR 1857
Camberwell (S=GRO Online Index), listed as Lucy Thirkell with mother’s maiden
name Williams. Marriage: May 16, 1876 St. Stephen, Clapham Park, Lambeth (S3), listed as Lucy
Thirkell a spinster who resided at Clapham whose father is listed as George
Pope Thirkell a gentleman and Edward Allen Price. Death: September 20, 1924 (S6). Probate: December 12, 1924
London (S6), listed as Lucy Price of West Home Lyme Regis Dorsetshire and Doonside Cobham, Surrey widow with effects £14,734 to Edward Thirkell Price
and Arthur Thirkell Price esquire.
7.
Percy
Thirkell (1858-??). Born: 4th QTR 1858
Camberwell (S=GRO Online Index). Listed
as Percy Thirkell with mother’s maiden name Williams.
8.
Edgar
Thirkell (1861-??). Born: 1st QTR 1861
Camberwell (S=GRO Online Index). Listed
as Edgar Thirkell with mother’s maiden name Williams.
9.
Clifton
Thirkell (c:1863-??). Born: not
found. 1871 Census: with parents (S4),
listed as a son Clifton Thirkell age 8 a scholar born in Lambeth, Surrey.
10.
Elizabeth
Thirkell (1864-??). Born: 1st QTR 1864
Auckland (S=GRO Online Index). Listed as
Elizabeth Thirkell with mother’s maiden name Williams.
Thirkell Generation 1: Francis William Pinnock
Thirkell (c1823-1905) and Catherine Jenkins (c1822-1851) and Mary Ann Elizabeth
Thompson (c1833-1875)
· Born: c1823 (S5d).
· Baptized: December 28, 1823
Parish Church of Benenden, Kent (S1c).
Listed as Francis
William Pinnick Thirkell with parents William and Ann Thirkell.
·
1841 Census: not found.
· Marriage #1:
October 18, 1847 St. James, Clerkenwell, Islington
(S3). Listed as Francis William Rinnock Thirkell a bachelor and warehouseman who resided at
Southampton Street whose father is listed as William Thirkell a gentleman and
Catherine Jenkins a spinster.
· 1851 Census: 8 Chalham Place, St. George, Camberwell, Lambeth (S4). Listed as Francis Thirkell age 27 a
warehouseman and straw hat maker born in Chanbrook, Kent with wife Catherine age 29 born in Strand,
London, 2 children: Kate and Francis, 2 visitors and 1 servant (note: the
surname is incorrectly listed in the census index as Therkell).
· Wife #1’s Death:
2nd QTR 1851 Camberwell, London (S5d).
Listed as Catherine Thirkell.
· Wife #1’s Burial:
June 1851 Nunhead Cemetery, Southwark, London
(S7). Listed as Catherine Thirkell who
was born in 1822 at the Strand, Westminster, London.
· Marriage #2:
August 15, 1853 St. George, Camberwell, Southwark
(S3). Listed as Francis William Runock Thirkell a widower and warehouseman living on Kent
Road with father listed as William Thirkell a gentleman and Mary Ann Elizabeth
Thompson a spinster.
· 1861 Census: 36
Claremont Villa, Lewisham (S4). Listed
as Francis Thirkell age 36 a warehouseman born in Cranbrook, Kent with wife
Mary Ann age 27 born in Rotherhitte, Surrey, 5
children: Kate, Frank, Sidney, Ernest and Alice, and 4
servants.
· 1871 Census: 126
Claremont, Lewisham (S4). Listed as
Francis Thirkell age 47 a fancy goods merchant born in Cranbrook, Kent with
wife Mary A. age 36 born in Rotherhitte, Surrey, 9
children: Ernest, Alice, Howard, Blanche, Horace, Florence, Claude, Lidia and Ethel, and 5 servants.
· Wife #2’s Death:
2nd QTR 1875 Croydon, Surrey (S5d).
Listed as Mary Ann E. Thirkell age 42.
· Wife #2’s Burial:
June 5, 1875 Southwark, London (S7). Listed as Mary A. E. Thirkell.
·
Wife #2’s Probate: not found.
· 1881 Census: 176
Beckenham Road, Penge, Surrey (S4).
Listed as Francis Thirkell age 57 a widow and warehouseman born in
Benenden, Kent with 8 children: Kate, Alice, Blanche, Horace, Claude, Louisa, Ethel and Beatrice, 1 grandson Spencer Thirkell and 6
servants.
·
1891 Census: not found.
· 1901 Census: 35
Chine Side, Shanklin, Isle of Wight, Hampshire (S4). Listed as Francis Thirkell age 77 a widow and
dry goods merchant born in Benenden, Kent living in his daughter’s household
with William Walker age 73 and his wife Kate Walker
age 54.
· Death: 4th QTR
1905 Battle, Sussex (S5d). Listed as
Francis William P. Thirkell age 82. December 22, 1905 (S6).
· Burial: December
27, 1905 Southward, London (S7). Listed as Francis W. P. Thirkell.
· Probate: May 5, 1906 London (S6).
Listed as Francis William Pinnock of Dorset-road Bexhill-on-sea Sussex
with effects £886 to Sidney
Thirkell company’s director, Henry Gordon Poland member of
Lloyd’s-shipping-exchange and Frank Field commercial traveler.
· Children: (S=a search of the
GRO online index for male and female births between 1846-1852 with a mother’s
maiden name of Jenkins and between 1853-1878 with a mother’s maiden name of
Thompson was done and only fifteen were found).
1.
Kate
Thirkell (1846-??). Born: 3rd QTR 1846
Marylebone (S=GRO Online Index). Listed
as Kate Thirkell with mother’s maiden named listed as Jenkins.
2.
Francis
William Thirkell (1848-??). Born: 2nd
QTR 1848 Islington (S=GRO Online Index).
Listed as Francis William Thirkell with mother’s maiden named listed as
Jenkins.
3.
Ellen
Nancy Thirkell (1849-??). Born: 4th QTR
1849 Camberwell (S=GRO Online Index).
Listed as Ellen Nancy Thirkell with mother’s maiden named listed as
Jenkins.
4.
Sidney
Thirkell (1854-1926). See Thirkell Generation 2
5.
Ernest
Thirkell (1856-??). Born: 4th QTR 1856
Lewisham Union (S=GRO Online Index).
Listed as Ernest Thirkell with mother’s maiden named listed as Thompson.
6.
Walter
Thirkell (1858-??). Born: 1st QTR 1858
Lewisham Union (S=GRO Online Index).
Listed as Walter Thirkell with mother’s maiden named listed as Thompson.
7.
Alice
Ada Thirkell (1860-??). Born: 1st QTR
1860 Lewisham Union (S=GRO Online Index).
Listed as Alice Ada Thirkell with mother’s maiden named listed as
Thompson.
8.
Howard
Thirkell (1862-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1862
Lewisham Union (S=GRO Online Index).
Listed as Howard Thirkell with mother’s maiden named listed as Thompson.
9.
Blanche
Thirkell (1863-??). Born: 4th QTR 1863
Lewisham (S=GRO Online Index). Listed as
Blanche Thirkell with mother’s maiden named listed as Thompson.
10.
Horace
Vyse Thirkell (1865-??). Born: 4th QTR
1865 Lewisham Union (S=GRO Online Index).
Listed as Horace Vyse Thirkell with mother’s maiden named listed as
Thompson.
11.
Claude
Thirkell (1867-1944). See Thirkell Generation 2.
12.
Lina
Marion Thirkell (1868-??). Born: 3rd QTR 1868 Lewisham Union (S=GRO Online
Index). Listed as Lina Marion Thirkell with mother’s maiden
named listed as Thompson.
13.
Ethel
Frances Thirkell (1870-??). Born: 1st QTR 1870 Lewisham Union (S=GRO Online
Index). Listed as Ethel Frances Thirkell
with mother’s maiden named listed as Thompson.
14.
Beatrice
Maude Thirkell (1872-??). Born: 1st QTR
1872 Lewisham Union (S=GRO Online Index).
Listed as Beatrice Maude Thirkell with mother’s maiden named listed as
Thompson.
15.
Leonard
Thirkell (1873-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1873
Croydon (S=GRO Online Index). Listed as
Leonard Thirkell with mother’s maiden named listed as Thompson.
Thirkell Generation 2:
Arthur Thirkell (1853-1923) and Fanny Elizabeth Price (c1845-1882)
· Born: 3rd QTR 1853 Camberwell (S=GRO Online
Index). Listed as Arthur with mother’s
maiden name Williams.
·
Baptized: not found.
·
1861 Census: not found.
·
1871 Census: not found.
·
1881 Census: not found.
· Marriage: May 18, 1881 Holy Trinity, Clapham, Lambeth (S3). Listed as Arthur Thirkell age 27 a bachelor
and merchant who resided in Clapham whose father was George Pope Thirkell a
gentleman and Fanny Elizabeth Price age 35 a spinster.
· Wife’s Death: 2nd
QTR 1882 Lambeth, London (S5d). Listed
as Fanny Elizabeth Thirkell age 37.
April 29, 1882 at 3 Ravenbury-villas,
Romola-road, Tulse Hill, Surrey (S6).
·
Wife’s Burial: not found.
· Wife’s Probate:
February 11, 1885 Principal Registry (S6). Listed as Fanny Elizabeth Thirkell wife of
Arthur Thirkell late of 3 Ravenbury-villas,
Romola-road, Tulse Hill, Surrey with personal estate
of £53 granted to Arthur
Thirkell of Meaburn King’s Road, Chapham
Park a merchant’s clerk.
· 1891 Census: with
father (S4). Listed as Arthur Thrikell age 37 a widower and merchants clerk
employed born in Camberwell, Kent.
· 1901 Census: 19
Raleigh Glens, Lambeth, London (S4).
Listed as Arthur Thirkell age 47 a widower and warehouseman straw hats
secretary born in Norwood, London with son George P. age 18 same occupation as
father born in Tulse Hill, London and 2 servants.
· 1911 Census: 11
Beckenham Grove, Shortlands, Kent (S4).
Listed as Arthur Thirkell age 57 a widower retired wholesale straw hat
manufacturer born in Old Kent, London with 2 servants.
· Death: September
7, 1923 Lyme, Axminster, Dorset (S8d), listed as
Arthur Thirkell age 70 a retired straw manufacturer who died at The Cottage
Hospital in Lyme of colon cancer with his sister Lucy Price present at his
death. September 7, 1923 at Lyme Regis Cottage
Hospital, Dorsetshire (S6).
·
Burial: not found.
· Probate: October
25, 1923 London (S6).
Listed as Arthur Thirkell of West Home Lyme Regis, Dorsetshire with
effects £6,194 to Lucy
Price widow.
· Children:
1.
George
Price Thirkell (1882-??). Born: 2nd QTR
1882 Lambeth (S=GRO Online Index).
Listed as George Price Thirkell with mother’s maiden name listed as
Price.
Thirkell
Generation 2: Sidney Thirkell (1854-1926) and Amelia Webb (c1853-19??).
· Born: 4th QTR 1854
Lewisham Union (S=GRO Online Index).
Listed as Sidney Thirkell with mother’s maiden named listed as Thompson.
· Baptized: not
found.
· 1861 Census: with
parents (S4). Listed as Sidney Thirkell
age 6 a scholar born in Sydenham, Kent.
·
1871 Census: not found.
· Marriage: 3rd QTR
1879 Lewisham (S5m). Listed as Sidney
Thirkell and Amelia Webb.
· 1881 Census: 325
High St., Chatham, Kent (S4). Listed as
Sidney Thirkell age 26 a warehouseman born in Syderham,
Kent with wife Minnie age 26 born in Chatham, Kent and 1 child: Elsie W.,
living in the father-in-law’s household of James W. Webb age 61.
· 1891 Census: 35 Clevelana Villa, Newelana Park,
Beckenham, Kent (S4). Listed as Sydney
Thirkell age 36 warehouseman employed born in Forest Hill, Kent with wife
Minnie age 36 born in Chatham, Kent, 2 children: Elsie W. and Dora W. and 2
servants.
· 1901 Census: 11
Copies Cape Road, Beckenham, Kent (S4).
Listed as Sidney Thirkell age 45 a straw hat
merchant employer born in Forest Hill, Kent with wife Minnie age 45 born in
Chatham, Kent, 1 child: Elsie Webb, 1 mother-in-law Isabella Webb age 79 and 2
servants.
· 1911 Census: not
found.
· Death: October 19, 1926 (S6).
· Burial: All Saints
Churchyard, Biddenden, Kent (S7). Listed as Sidney Thirkell who was born
October 23, 1854 and died October 19, 1926.
· Probate: December
21, 1926 London (S6).
Listed as Sidney Thirkell of Thirfield High
Halden Tenterden, Kent with effects £12,319 to Amelia Thirkell widow.
·
Wife’s Death: not found.
·
Wife’s Burial: not found.
·
Wife’s Probate: not found.
· Children: (S=a
search of the GRO online index for male and female births between 1879-1909
with a mother’s maiden name of Webb and only two were found).
1.
Elsie
Webb Thirkell (1880-??). Born: 3rd QTR
1880 Bromley (S=GRO Online Index).
Listed as Elsie Webb Thirkell with mother’s maiden name Webb.
2.
Dora
Webb Thirkell (1882-??). Born: 4th QTR
1882 Bromley (S=GRO Online Index).
Listed as Dora Webb Thirkell with mother’s maiden name Webb.
Thirkell
Generation 2: Claude Thirkell (1867-1944) and Miriam Harriet Hordern
(c1873-1945)
· Born: 1st QTR 1867
Lewisham Union (S=GRO Online Index).
Listed as Claudes Thirkell with mother’s maiden named listed as
Thompson.
· Baptized: not
found.
· 1871 Census: with
parents (S4). Listed as Claude Thirkell
age 4 born in Forest Hill, Kent.
· 1881 Census: with
parents (S4). Listed as Claude Thirkell
age 14 a scholar born in Forest Hill, Kent
·
1891 Census: not found.
· Marriage: November 2, 1892 St
John’s Wood, Westminster (S3). Listed as
Claude Thirkell age 25 a bachelor and warehouseman who lived at The Hall Penge
whose father was Frances William Pinnock Thirkell a merchant and Miriam Harriet
Hordern age 21 a spinster.
· 1901 Census: 46 Barnley, Beckenham, Kent (4). Listed as Claude Thirkell age 34 a merchant
general employer born in Sydenham, Kent with wife Miriam H. age 29 born in
Sydney, Australia, 1 child: Vera H., 1 sister Blanche and 3 servants.
· 1911 Census:
Chalfont, Sth Eden Park, Beckenham, Kent (S4). Listed as Claude Thirkell age 44 a director
of Co wholesale millener born in Sydenham, Kent and wife Mirium Harriett age 39 born in Sydney,
Australia, 2 children: Vera Hordern and Vernon Hordern and 4 servants. Claude and Miriam had been married 18 years
and had 3 children of which 2 were still living.
· 1939
Register: Greenways, Cranbrook Road,
Cranbrook, Kent (S9). Listed as Claude
Thirkell born February 2, 1867 retired with wife
Miriam H. born June 9, 1873.
· Death: 4th QTR 1944 Battle, Sussex (S5d). Listed as
Claude Thirkell age 77. December 26, 1944 Bexhill Hospital, Bexhill, Sussex (S6).
·
Burial: not found.
· Probate: February 26, 1945
Llandudno (S6). Listed as Claude
Thirkell of care of the National Provincial Bank Limited 195 Aldergate-street, London with effects £77,621 to Vernon Hordern
Thirkell farmer and Ernest Hopkins Hazel solicitor.
· Wife’s Death: April 4, 1945 at
Ashbrook Hall, Hollington, St. Leonards-on-Sea (S6).
·
Wife’s Burial: not found.
· Wife’s Probate:
June 8, 1945 Llandudno (S6). Listed as Miriam Harriet Thirkell of The
Commercial Banking Company Sydney Limited 18 Birchin-lane Lombard-street
London, widow with £6,817
to Ernest Hopkins Hazel solicitor
· Children: (S=a
search of the GRO online index for male and female births between 1892-1921
with a mother’s maiden name of Webb and only three were found).
1.
Anthony
Hordern Claude Thirkell (1893-1894).
Born: 4th QTR 1893 Bromley (S=GRO Online Index). Listed as Anthony Hordern Claude Vernon
Hordern Thirkell with mother’s maiden name Hordern. Death: 1st QTR 1894 Bromley (S=GRO Online
Index). Listed as Anthony Hordern Claude
Vernon Hordern Thirkell age 0.
2.
Vera
Hordern Thirkell (1895-??). Born: 4th QTR 1895 Bromley (S=GRO Online
Index). Listed as Vernon Hordern
Thirkell with mother’s maiden name Hordern
3.
Vernon
Hordern Thirkell (1905-??). Born: 3rd QTR 1905 Bromley (S=GRO Online
Index). Listed as Vernon Hordern
Thirkell with mother’s maiden name Hordern.
Avery
Needle Cases with the Vyse, Sons & Co. name
1.
Quadruple
Golden Casket - Fleur di Lis: Mechanical patent #3517 registered November 19, 1868 by William Avery, needle manufacturer, and Albert
Fenton, machinist, from Redditch (S=British Library - Business and Intellectual
Property Centre, London).
